Milo

Having run a community acupuncture clinic for almost a year now, I must thank Moses and the folks at WCA for providing the know-how and sharing their experiences. Our success is directly related to their willingness to share what works.

The bottom line is that acupuncture performed frequently is an effective and powerful therapeutic modality for a variety of conditions.

Thanks Moses and WCA.

Larry

Hannah

Well haraboy, If you cant afford acu then you ARE getting exactly what you pay for, which is NOTHING.

I used to do reception at a Community Acupuncture Clinic and we routinely had people come over to our clinic from a well known third-generation, Chinese Medical Doctor’s clinic who is GREAT but charges $110 per treatment. They actually could afford to come in often enough and got better faster than at the expensive place. You obviously have zero firsthand experience.

Corinne

Acutope, I am unsure what your agenda is but if you were actually an expert on HIPPA you would know that it only covers electronic records. And as far as privacy issues go, these Community Acupuncture clinics have music, waterfalls and/or white noise generators going on and the acupuncturist whispers back and forth with the patient. My Grandmother was treated with chemo in a community setting just like this in recliners in a very large, well known Hospital. Swing and a miss, acutope.

Cheyenne

HIPPA only applies to medical institutions who transmit information electronically. Really - look it up before you act like you know what you’re talking about. Patients are treated in a big room. I’ve tried it and its great. The acupuncturist just doesn’t ask any embarrassing questions. I know I could ask to see him privately, but I’ve never needed to.

Ahmed

Hopefully, your patients aren’t being treated in the same room… and their comments aren’t being heard by others… otherwise this is a major HIPPA violation.

Tiffany

Man, you are a true inspiration to TCM. Nice work.

Maryjane

Hi Moses
Thanks for the video.
I’m in acupuncture school right now and boy is it brutal, within the modern dynamic of one patient per hour and this whole thing of I’m the doctor and the patient is the healeee, I have a big struggle with that.
Without what you are doing and all the other people in working class acupuncture, acupuncture without borders et all, I would not be still here, I would be finding another modality!
Thanks for being part of the future!

Tiffany

If you believe that “you get what you pay for”, I would say you get a great deal for your 15 to 40 dollars when you receive treatment at any community acupuncture clinic. Thanks for checking out the video and I hope you get a chance to experience CA for yourself someday.

Gracie

The concept of community style acupuncture is great! However, I hope those acupuncturists are not underskilled (is this the only way they can establish patients?). The effectiveness of one treatment by a skilled acupuncturist can be equal or less to the effect from four or five treatments by a community style acupuncturist who see multiple patients in such a short time. I still wonder how realistically one can quickly make correct diagnosis and give treatment within 10 minutes!

Alisha

you get what you pay for

Amber

I feel like a poster child for CA and WCA. Thanks you to all the staff for my healing, and thank you Moses for this video, which I shared with friends and family.
Cathie Simpson

Adrien

I have talked to at least 70 acupuncturists and most struggle in their practice charging the standard prices of $60 per session. All Acus that I know that practice this community style actually make more money by getting better results due to the lower cost, so patients can get in enough to actually help. The patients get better and give you more referrels due to the lower cost, also. A win-Win.:) In other words practicing this way actually increases your success. Read Lisa Rohleders books.

Oscar

I can only speak for the Working Class Acupuncture clinic: We do use e-stim and moxa, though very rarely. We find cupping is both time consuming and not needed when patients have frequent enough acupuncture sessions. We do not have extra charges for the extra therapies.

Sage

I am an acupuncturist too from NY. I am beginning my second year of practice and I just learned about this business model. My question is do use moxabustion, electric stimulation, or cupping in your practice? If so, do you chrage extra for these adjunctive techniques along with acupuncture?

Juliette

I’m starting acupuncture school in September in Sarasota, Fl. What a wonderful concept you have here! As a progressive, John Edwards style populist, I like this concept. Regretfully, I do believe that I’ll have to charge a bit more for my services for two reasons: I have a 4 year undergrad loan amount to pay off PLUS the cost I’ll have from a MSOM degree, and I’ll be practicing in either AR or SC. Perhaps those states will have consumers open to this idea. Keep up the good work and ideas.

Taliyah

#1 of 6: Good question! Yes, I do practice acupuncture full time.

I think it is important to understand that community acupuncture (CA) is a high volume/ low cost acupuncture business model. In CA the practitioner has the potential to see around six patients per hour, or around one patient every ten minutes. A first appointment in a CA clinic usually takes around twenty minutes, including assessment of main complaints and placement of acupuncture needles.

Orion

#2 of 6: After the needles are placed you simply rest for around one hour or until you are naturally alert and ready to move again.

I think the key to making a reasonable living practicing CA is to see a high volume of patients each workday. I see an average of twenty patients per four hour work shift, five days per week; therefore, I treat an average of one hundred patients per week. Each patient I treat pays between fifteen dollars to thirty five dollars for their treatment.

Jada

#3 of 6: I work at the Working Class Acupuncture (WCA) clinic in Portland Oregon where I am one of six acupuncturists. At WCA we have found that one important aspect of running a successful CA practice is having a large enough clinic treatment space and large enough acupuncturist staff to accommodate a high volume of patients.

Lilly

# 4 of 6: For more specific information about running a successful community acupuncture clinic, please visit the community acupuncture network (CAN) website. There is a free blog on the home page of the CAN website that is a great introduction to the ideas presented on CAN, yet, I recommend reading the information in the members’ forums.

Elsie

#5 of 6: Once you become a member of CAN, the lengthy “introduction to CA and CAN business forum” will answer most if not all of your CA related questions. If you still have questions after reading through the intro forum, that’s what the practitioner forums were developed for. Here you can learn from experienced CA practitioners about anything from marketing your business to how to effectively treat back pain in a recliner. Happy reading!

Amanda

#6 of 6: Another great source of information about CA is available in the book “The Remedy, Integrating Acupuncture Into American Health Care” by WCA founder Lisa Rohleder, LAc.

Marcus

How do you survive on charging so little? Do you do acupuncture full time?

Natalya

Good to see u again in here. I like the Buddhism background music. Acupuncture plus Chinese Herbal tonic really help chronic pain and swollen muscles.

Finley

OK, now I want to watch you skate board in person!

Ahmad

This is such an amazingly simple, informational and effective explanation of CA. THANK YOU MOSES!!!